newbie seeking for the truth

[pastal]

Hello ,
i'm new to this forum and i don't know a lot about synths ,here is my question : which synthe do you recommand me to buy (maximum 400 euros from ebay) in order to make electro with sounds from electroclash (tiga,the hacker) and more experimental like add'n tox,chris clark or recoil . I've heard the arp odyssey is good ,which synthe is the more complete ?
thank you all
great forum you have

[Jexus]

u betta by ur-self sumthin wit MIDI...

[Psy_Free]

Welcome.

You won't find an ARP Odyssey for 400 Euros (unless it's completely broken), and you're probably better off with something less vintage & with MIDI for a first synth.

I don't know what the artists you mention sound like, but maybe you should look at something like a Roland JP-8000, Korg MS-2000 or Microkorg, Novation K-series, Alesis Ion etc.

They can all be had for around the 400 Euros mark (or less).

[Dirk]

Add N to (X) usses on Add insult to injury:
EH mini synth
Arp 2600
Korg micro preset
Yamaha SY2
Micro moog
moog rogue
wasp
ms-20
fun machine
theramin
mellotron
pro mars
omnichord
ems aks
pro one
hammond c3
clavinet
celeste
on the picture I also see:
Korg Micro Preset M-500/SP
Clavia nordlead 2

Maybe you could get a micro moog.
But with basicaly anything you can make experimental electro.

[Soundwave]

Hello ,
i'm new to this forum and i don't know a lot about synths ,here is my question : which synthe do you recommand me to buy (maximum 400 euros from ebay) in order to make electro with sounds from electroclash (tiga,the hacker) and more experimental like add'n tox,chris clark or recoil . I've heard the arp odyssey is good ,which synthe is the more complete ?
thank you all
great forum you have

If your a newbie then I wouldn't go for a vintage for your 1st synth as you have to really know what your getting (especially on ebay) and know where to get it serviced ect.
I think almost any analogueish/VA synth can do most electro sounds as they tend to be basic in a raw edgy way. Good bargains on ebay are the Yamaha AN1X, Korg MS2000, Novation KS or maybe a Korg EMX if you want a groovebox type workstaion for complete song arrangements. On the software side Reason is good to get going on.

[clueless]

If I were starting out like you I would go for the MS2000. Has just about everything you need on one cool piece of kit. Try and get the 2000B... looks great!

[pastal]

my good!! thanks for all these replies !
A friend of mine already as the microkorg and i don't like it at all ! It's way too limited ,but why you are all telling me not to try a vintage synth ?
I'll check the korg ms2000 and novation ks...
Thank you Dirk for add n to x settings.

[Soundwave]

,but why you are all telling me not to try a vintage synth ?

Cos vintage synths generally weren't built to last 10yrs and these days they tend to be a little worse for wear than they were 10-15yrs ago when the the big analogue revival happened. Parts are getting even more sparse and expensive then ever hence the Virtual Analogue synths that emerged in the later 90's.
A half decent VA will give you the sounds you want but if your a newbie looking for a vintage on ebay then your treading on thin ice dude.
You'll risking much more money on something that may cost you even more when it breaks or you when you discover a faulty part that you didn't realize was broken at the time due to lack of knowledge. Then you have to find a specialist repair chap which don't tend to be cheap being a niche market. Also you'll find that analogues in the price bracket your aiming for have changed hands many times so who knows how they've been hammered.
Don't get me wrong if the sound of a particular vintage synth inspires you then its all worth it but its a dangerous path to the dark side of the credit card for the new Padwan.

[Yoozer]

but why you are all telling me not to try a vintage synth ?

1) That means there's more of 'm left for us

2) If you are just looking into this and have a limited budget there's little to no advantage. In fact, even looking at hardware stuff at all might not be the desired strategy. Blowing all your cash on such a machine and then not having anything as drum machine or sampler (which you are going to need, mark my words) is not a wise strategy.

I'll check the korg ms2000 and novation ks...

Try to score a Nord Rack 2 - incredible bang for the buck.

[pastal]

but why you are all telling me not to try a vintage synth ?

1) That means there's more of 'm left for us

2) If you are just looking into this and have a limited budget there's little to no advantage. In fact, even looking at hardware stuff at all might not be the desired strategy. Blowing all your cash on such a machine and then not having anything as drum machine or sampler (which you are going to need, mark my words) is not a wise strategy.

I'll check the korg ms2000 and novation ks...

Try to score a Nord Rack 2 - incredible bang for the buck.

hi,
no ,the guy i'm playing music with has a microkorg ,a groovebox and we just bought the korg kaos pad ,it's just that i don't like AT ALL the microkorg.
I will avoid ebay and it's risky vintage synths ...many thanks
i saw some demos on youtube about :
-roland jp 8000
-korg ms 2000B
-yamaha an1 x i don't really felt 100% good about them,
but i felt in love yesterday with the arp odyssey !! God forgive me !!

[otto]

A friend of mine already as the microkorg and i don't like it at all ! It's way too limited ,but why you are all telling me not to try a vintage synth ?
I'll check the korg ms2000 and novation ks...
Thank you Dirk for add n to x settings.

I can understand not liking the general sound of a microkorg but if you think it is limited than you will be very dissapointed by any vintage analog in your price range. Modern VA's can generally run circles around vintage equipment as far as the specs go. Sound is a different story. You might also want to check out the micron or Ion. It seems like people who don't like the microkorg/ms2000 sound do like the micron/ion and vice versa... although I think the microkorg/ms2000 is perfect for what your trying to acheive...I believe ladytron uses and has used that sound engine on all their albums. Actually I think a Novation Bass Station would be great as well. Modern thus reliable, analog, decent specs, affordable and underrated IMO.

On the vintage front you might find a yamaha CS mono in that price range and they are generally built tough and reliable for vintage.

[JSRockit]

my good!! thanks for all these replies !
A friend of mine already as the microkorg and i don't like it at all ! It's way too limited ,

The Microkorg is not limited at all. Sure, it takes work to get down into the parameters...but it certainly is not limited.

[Yoozer]

-roland jp 8000

Get the 8080 if you don't need the keyboard; it can do just that little bit more.

-yamaha an1 x i don't really felt 100% good about them

If you're going to play live, they're very nice (light-weight, good sounds). Just make sure you have the knobs assigned to the important parameters.

Listen to this demo here made by forum member elmosexwhistle:

http://www.vintagesynth.org/phpBB2/view ... light=an1x

It should still be online.

[Tyler2000]

I'll check the korg ms2000 and novation ks...

if you don't like the micorkorg sound, then you won't like either of those. MS2000 is the same sound engine and KS is way un-vintage sounding. It's a good synth in my opinion, but not vintage at all.

I would suggest an Akai AX-60 perhaps. All analog, pollyphonic, midi.

Moog MG-1

Ensoniq ESQ-1 is another great choice if you don't mind spending some time learning how to program.

[otto]

I think a juno would fit the bill as well for that genre.