analog velocity sensitive synth?

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analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by mustardeer » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:10 pm

does that exist?

just realized i bought the wrong synth.
was about to sell it and buy a juno-60 and just realized that juno-60 is not velocity sensitive either unless i get a pedal which is not what i want.

i'm looking for an all analog synth, don't need lots of features or midi. I need to be able to play all keys at the same time, or at least 8 at a time. I found an oberheim ob8 they say it's analog and it's $1800 so maybe it's as sensitive as a piano or would i just be paying for more filters and features?

thank you very much! this is my first post.
i'm in hollywood, california and will be looking for something on craigslist, possibly ebay unless someone can recommend a local shop.

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by Synthigraphie » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:39 pm

Roland JX8P/ Super are velocity sensible, for volume, filter and also modulations (sync, cross).
Akai AX73 and 80 too...

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by mustardeer » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:19 pm

i believe those are digital, someone will correct me if i'm wrong.

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by maindeglorie » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:30 pm

Wrong.
Analog under digital control.

Also.... the Prophet 08 and Andromeda.
100% analog. Velocity all over the place.

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by paugui » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:58 am

The OB8 is not velocity sensitive.

I think that from the old VCO synths, only the Oberheim Matrix 12 and the Sequential Cricuits Prophet T8 have velocity sensitive keyboards (I am probably forgetting some...), as it was not standard at the time.

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:08 am

maindeglorie wrote:Wrong.
Analog under digital control.

Also.... the Prophet 08 and Andromeda.
100% analog. Velocity all over the place.
Don't you mean "at least 50% percent wrong?"
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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by V301H » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:19 am

One of the first velocity sensitive VCO analogs was the CS80 (not to mention the GX1) which had a weighted keyboard and was, and still is, incredibly expensive. The Rhodes Chroma also was a VCO synth with a wooden velocity keyboard and it too is quite expensive if you can find one. On the lower end the JX3P DCO analog will respond to velocity over MIDI if it has the right EPROM installed. The MKS80 Super Jupiter VCO synth module also responds to velocity over MIDI.
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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by mustardeer » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:25 am

I found a CS60 for $4000, i think i'll pass.
good info though, i have a feeling there are more models out there. $2000 is as high as i can go, but what i really want is something very basic with a little wood here and there and beautiful fat analog sound that can respond to my piano fingers differently than monkey's fingers. Now if i can find that for under $1000 without having to deal with MIDI (i wouldn't know how to hook that up or what to do with it).

the MKS80 doesn't look like a keyboard - not even sure what to do with a device like that.

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by Solderman » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:52 am

You mentioned Juno, so I thought I'd throw in the Alpha Junos. Only the Juno2 has the velocity sense keyboard, but the Juno1 and MKS-50 module will respond to it over Midi when the patch is programmed to do so. A few things on them also respond to aftertouch.
They are 6 voices just like the Juno-60, though, not 8. All the Junos and JX's are DCO, which essentially means the oscillators do not drift in pitch, but still require electronic components to shape the waveform.
mustardeer wrote:The MKS80 doesn't look like a keyboard - not even sure what to do with a device like that.
Easy. You buy a used Kurzweil PC1X and hook it up to one of these Roland rack mounted modules. Or get any Midi controller that doesn't feel mushy or clunky. Monkeys begone.

As for what is meant by fat, it's a hopeless task to get a straight answer. Best listen to demos or play in person.
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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:45 am

The CS-50 and CS-60 are pressure-sensitive, but not velocity sensitive.

As for "fat," you won't get a straight answer from most... but that is not to say that there isn't a straight answer... it's just that that answer requires knowledge of the synths which generated the adjective!
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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by Pro5 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:03 am

You said you need 8 note poly minimum? Forget JX-8P (only six note poly) it also doesn't have 'fat analog sounds' in the sense you mean.

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by Stab Frenzy » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:09 am

mustardeer wrote:$2000 is as high as i can go, but what i really want is something very basic with a little wood here and there and beautiful fat analog sound that can respond to my piano fingers differently than monkey's fingers. Now if i can find that for under $1000 without having to deal with MIDI (i wouldn't know how to hook that up or what to do with it).
You should probably be looking for a second-hand Prophet 08 or Andromeda then IMO. P08 if you want more of the wood end of the spectrum, Andy for more polyphony and a more vintage sound.

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by Userfriend » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:30 am

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by deanhanson » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:42 pm

how do you intend to use the hw-sequenced or played? gigged or studio? where will it go? what else do you have? do you want to go otb, or hybrid itb/otb?

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Re: analog velocity sensitive synth?

Post by Sir Nose » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:00 pm

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