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Re: Computer Feature Creep Driving Me Nuts

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:53 am
by b3groover
My first DAW was a Pentium III based machine with 1GB of RAM (whoo hoo!). This was in 2002 or so. Every few years I upgrade this and that, never spending more than a few hundred bucks. Every four years or so I do a full motherboard / CPU / RAM upgrade, purposefully staying one or two generations behind the curve (cheaper that way). There's nothing left of that original 2002 machine now.

The last time I upgraded was February 2011. New motherboard / CPU / RAM / PSU. I kept my harddrives, monitors, case, etc. It cost me under $400. I went from a dual-core Athlon to a quad-core Phenom machine. I bought the dual-core in 2006, so I got good mileage out of it. The next upgrade will be a six-core processor, which as of right now costs only $150. I've got 16GB of RAM and it runs like a champ.

The reason I like PC vs Mac is because it's much easier to stay a few generations behind and yet upgrade now and then as the needs arise. You can't really upgrade a Mac beyond RAM and harddrives. And indeed they intentionally release OS updates that force you to buy a new computer.

As a self-described "hobbyist" and "penny pincher" it would seem to make more sense for the OP to go PC. You could literally get a computer for less than half what the Mac will cost you which will be every bit as powerful, maybe even slightly more so if you can build it yourself. A guitarist friend, who doesn't know a thing about how computers work, just built a system like mine (I sent him links to the parts) for even less than I paid (no surprise there since, like I said, I built my machine a year ago). He's never put a computer together before but just watched YouTube tutorials. It's quite easy these days. And Windows 7, as much as I like to bash Microsoft, is a nice OS. CS_TBL is right, once you get past the OS and name on the front, all software is the same on each platform. Unless of course you're a Logic user.

Re: Computer Feature Creep Driving Me Nuts

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:06 am
by Ashe37
Long as you don't buy a AMD 'Bulldozer" based and expect 8 cores worth of performance in your DAW....

Re: Computer Feature Creep Driving Me Nuts

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:26 pm
by meatballfulton
Ashe37 wrote:Long as you don't buy a AMD 'Bulldozer"
Them's fighting words, cuzzin! My day job is engineering at AMD :ugeek:

Re: Computer Feature Creep Driving Me Nuts

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:01 am
by Ashe37
meatballfulton wrote:
Ashe37 wrote:Long as you don't buy a AMD 'Bulldozer"
Them's fighting words, cuzzin! My day job is engineering at AMD :ugeek:
Then walk down and bitchslap whomever decided there needed to be half a many FPU cores because 'people don't make that much use of the FPU"

Re: Computer Feature Creep Driving Me Nuts

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:10 pm
by SSquirrel
b3groover wrote:As a self-described "hobbyist" and "penny pincher" it would seem to make more sense for the OP to go PC.
Except he has already said that he prefers Mac to Windows. Intel made Ivy Bridge official yesterday, w/a 4/29 availability date. The only mobile processors included in the announcement are a few i7s. There's a full range of i5 and i7 processors available for the desktop tho, so we could see updates to the iMac soon. They would have to be planning for i7 quad being the only processors available for the MBP to upgrade it right now.

Mac Pro of course could be upgraded anytime now b/c the Sandy Bridge E Xeon chips are out as of a month or so ago. When I was still using Windows, I usually have tended to stay about a generation behind on things like video cards, but I would pay for a better processor b/c a $150 video card now and a $150 video card 2 or 3 years down the line was always cheaper than trying to buy a top end card for $500 or $600 when that cheap card a couple years down the line would be just as good. You will have some people who say i7s are a waste for audio b/c none of the DAWs make good use of the feature yet, but I figure it's just a matter of time before they get that worked out and I'm a fan of being prepared for the eventuality instead of not even having the option. You can always shut HT off if you have to.

For me the decision would come down to do you need the 21.5" or the 27". Top end models of both can be upgraded to the i7 processors.