am i the only one using cubase?

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am i the only one using cubase?

Post by novielo » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:17 pm

well, i'm sure i'm not. but it doesn't seems to that there's alot of poeple here using it.

i never tried any other recording programs exept cool edit pro. i realy like this software, i still use it from time to time.

i switched to cubase sx3 because of midi (compared to cool edit) and the ability to host vst. yes, it has it's drawback but without ever tried anything else i cannot say.

on the pros side, i realy like the fact that within few click cut and paste of midi and/or audio is made. even the automation follow the cut and paste.

but something i don't like about cubase it's the hard time editing midi that have recorded, it's realy not user friendly. also editing loop is a quite hard. in fact i'm learning senquencer gold, on an old laptop, at this time to do it with a third party.

so, for what reason did you choose you recording software? and why do you like it or not?
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Post by killanator » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:11 pm

i feel like im the only one using fl studio...

except of course i dont actually record right now until i can get at least 1 synth...

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Post by guesswho » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:59 pm

Anything from Jimmy Tamborello (Dntel/Postal Service/Figurine/James Figurine) has been recorded using Cubase.

It looks to be very similar to Logic, which I use.

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Post by GeneralBigbag » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:45 pm

I use Cubase, but then I really like the midi sequencer it has.
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Post by Synthaholic » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:52 pm

I use Cubase AI 4, which is the version bundled with the Yamaha Motif XS.

Can't complain about it, since it was "free". Or, maybe I paid over $2K for it and got a free Motif XS6 with it. ;)
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Post by CS_TBL » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:22 pm

sx3 here.. but I'm not using much of it, only the VSTi hosting, which includes the VSTi tracker I'm using to control VSTi instruments. So, no score editor, piano roll, main arrange window, you name it.. I'm not using it. Technically I don't even need to use cubase at all for that matter (as there are free hosts), but the programmer of the tracker uses it, and for beta testing purposes I want to have the exact same config to exclude external errors/bugs.
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Post by MitchK1989 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:02 pm

Almost all of the "mainstream" daws are more or less identical functionality wise, so it all boils down to workflow and personal preference.

I personally use logic because I'm addicted to the hyper editor for midi functions. I just love that I can stepsequence any parameter that is exposed to automation or midi control, or use it to create pattern based drum sequences in the same way ultrabeat does.

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Post by redroomrecordings » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:13 pm

I've been using cubase for years. used SX2 for many years and am now running SX4 on my Macbook.

I love cubase, many people have tried to sway me over to logic but no way in h**l will i do that.

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Re: am i the only one using cubase?

Post by Untouchable_888 » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:23 pm

novielo wrote:well, i'm sure i'm not. but it doesn't seems to that there's alot of poeple here using it.

i never tried any other recording programs exept cool edit pro. i realy like this software, i still use it from time to time.

i switched to cubase sx3 because of midi (compared to cool edit) and the ability to host vst. yes, it has it's drawback but without ever tried anything else i cannot say.

on the pros side, i realy like the fact that within few click cut and paste of midi and/or audio is made. even the automation follow the cut and paste.

but something i don't like about cubase it's the hard time editing midi that have recorded, it's realy not user friendly. also editing loop is a quite hard. in fact i'm learning senquencer gold, on an old laptop, at this time to do it with a third party.

so, for what reason did you choose you recording software? and why do you like it or not?
Yeah, cubase has c**p midi timing. I use midi very little, but when i used to run Logic, it was great. ultimately i got only like 1ms of jitter!
but i use Live these days..

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Post by Solderman » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:35 pm

I'm using SX1 with no Midi timing problems at all. In fact, with Ableton Live 7, if I try to send Midi clocks to my Kenton box for conversion to DinSync, the timing is absolute s**t. Clocks from Cubase are spot on. Ableton's timing is also lousy as a ReWire slave on my PC.

I've used Cubase since version 1.0 on the Atari ST, so I know the Midi editing workflow well. I've never found it un-user-friendly since there are all those keyboard shortcuts and you can always quickly zoom the part. I do wish there was more power in transforming events, like MitchK says.
There was a period of time when the PC version's timing was absolutely pathetic, probably all versions between 1997 and 2003. Maybe it was just the hardware and OS getting better, but I absolutely hated it on PC until after that. I used an Akai MPC mostly for sequencing up to that point.
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Post by Untouchable_888 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:38 pm

Solderman wrote:I'm using SX1 with no Midi timing problems at all. In fact, with Ableton Live 7, if I try to send Midi clocks to my Kenton box for conversion to DinSync, the timing is absolute s**t. Clocks from Cubase are spot on. Ableton's timing is also lousy as a ReWire slave on my PC.

I've used Cubase since version 1.0 on the Atari ST, so I know the Midi editing workflow well. I've never found it un-user-friendly since there are all those keyboard shortcuts and you can always quickly zoom the part. I do wish there was more power in transforming events, like MitchK says.
There was a period of time when the PC version's timing was absolutely pathetic, probably all versions between 1997 and 2003. Maybe it was just the hardware and OS getting better, but I absolutely hated it on PC until after that. I used an Akai MPC mostly for sequencing up to that point.
i havent tried to run midid thru. not yet. dont plan on it eitehr. but good to know! thanks!!
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Post by chamomileshark » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:18 pm

I started with a cracked version of Pro24 on an Atari, quickly moving to Cubeat. I was amazed when I returned music about 15 years later that although steinberg hadn't got my registration card for the new Cubase SX I bought, they still had me on the database from that Cubeat installation.

I used Cubase SX3, use probably 1% of the functionality but have the feeling should I need to do something clever, Cubase SX3 will probably allow me to do it.

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Post by Stab Frenzy » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:34 am

I use Pro Tools for recording and mixing, mostly because I did an engineering course that used PT as the main software and I know a lot about how to use it quickly and get the results I want from it. I also have a few really nice plugins that are RTAS only, which is probably one of the major reasons that Logic 8 doesn't tempt me. When McDSP release their AUs I guess I'll have to reconsider...

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Post by Yoozer » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:46 am

I quit after SX3 and jumped ship to Ableton. The amount of work you have to do to create a new track and get a softsynth going is ridiculous, the fact you can't switch around effects (this took until version 4) is ridiculous, and dumping the only hardware MIDI interface with the special sauce timing is ridiculous, too. Then again, Logic doesn't officially support the AMT8 anymore either and there's no alternative to be found anywhere.

Maybe you should've put this question in the form of a poll ;).
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Post by Solderman » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:01 pm

Yoozer wrote:I quit after SX3 and jumped ship to Ableton. The amount of work you have to do to create a new track and get a softsynth going is ridiculous...
It would depend on one's work style, I think. With Cubase, I can create four Midi tracks, (in 3 seconds with keyboard shortcuts, btw) and populate each with one drum part, (hat sequences on one, kick on one, snare on one, etc.) and then each one sends Midi events to one VSTI. In Ableton, aren't you forced to keep all Midi events for one VSTI instance in one Midi track? Or do you just create more Midi tracks and send their outputs to the Midi track with the VST? By not being able to move effects around, do you mean drag inserts on one audio track to another, complete with all the settings for it?

Also, what is special sauce, timing? Does it come with a sesame seed bun? ;)
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