8 / 12 bit samplers?

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8 / 12 bit samplers?

Post by ShawHale » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:28 pm

I'm looking for an old sample drum machine but don't know how to find one, any good recommendations? I already know about the well known ones such as the sp12 and ensoniq stuff, but are there any other machines that aren't that well known.

Really the only functions I need is to be able to sample and of course I want a gritty sound.

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Re: 8 / 12 bit samplers?

Post by meatballfulton » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:27 pm

Casio RZ-1, Zoom ST-224, Korg DDD-1, Korg DDD-5
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Re: 8 / 12 bit samplers?

Post by desmond » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:44 pm

meatballfulton wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:27 pm
Casio RZ-1, Zoom ST-224, Korg DDD-1, Korg DDD-5
Korg DDD-5 didn't sample, and the DDD-1 did, but only with the optional sample board...

There's also the RSF-SD140, the SP12/SP1200, Linn 9000, SCI Studio 440 that spring to mind...

Then of course there was the EPROM machines where you could burn samples onto your own chips with eg Simmons EPB or Oberheim Prommer, including the Oberheim DX/DMX, LinnDrums, Sequential Tom and others...

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Re: 8 / 12 bit samplers?

Post by Rasputin » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:54 am

Akai MPC60
Casio RZ-1

"There's also the RSF-SD140, the SP12/SP1200, Linn 9000, SCI Studio 440 that spring to mind..."

Those are particularly expensive, and most are quite rare. Casio RZ-1 is the only currently affordable 8/12-bit drum oriented (not a rack or keyboard) sampler, but it's extremely limited.

These are 16-bit, but can get in lo-fi and gritty territory:

Zoom ST-224
Korg ES-1
Akai S20 / Remix88
Roland SP404

People have snatched all this stuff up by now, so there's not really a lot of under-the-radar/poor man's XYZ/secret-weapon options anymore. Korg ES-1 is (in my opinion) the best price-to-feature ratio for anything in this class.

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Re: 8 / 12 bit samplers?

Post by paugui » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:34 pm

Another option worth considering, getting an 8 / 12 bit rack sampler and a proper sequencer or drum machine with good MIDI specifications for sequencing other gear.

Unless you go for something really limited, like the Casio RZ1 or Korg DDD1 (it has to have the sampling expansion fitted in), you likely will spend much more on a single drum machine, than you'd spend in this two part solution.

12 bit samplers, in particular, you have a nice amount of units available, from Akai, E-MU, Ensoniq, Roland, Yamaha and probably others...

Also, most old drum machines that had any sampling were often much more limited when it came to sampling than their rack counterparts...
I think that's true at least for the E-MU SPs, which are much more limited than the E-MU Emax I...

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Re: 8 / 12 bit samplers?

Post by zeno42 » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:04 am

On most excellent samplers, you can drop the bit rate of a sample; even the sp202 has a lofi option that achieves this.

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