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Yamaha SU-10 love?

Post by Nannerfan » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:12 am

Just got one of these for free.. any sort of charm to it?

Is it true it's drums sound better in Lo-fi mode?

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Re: Yamaha SU-10 love?

Post by crystalmsc » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:22 am

You can switch easily between sampling mode to get different result instantly and decide which on sounds better. That's the part of it's charm.
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Post by optimus prime » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:58 am

The scratch function can sound pretty cool on really short samples, sounds a bit like random octave arpeggiation.

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Post by Nannerfan » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:25 pm

Oh sweet,... so the sound quality is not set in stone? You can freely switch between them?

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Post by optimus prime » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:26 pm

Nannerfan wrote:Oh sweet,... so the sound quality is not set in stone? You can freely switch between them?
4 quality modes. They're called Grades: Extra Long (11 kHz), Long (22 kHz), Standard (32 kHz) and Hi (44.1 kHz). Polyphony and capability changes based on the mode. Check page 26 of the manual: http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Documen ... I/su10.pdf Or just read the whole manual, while you're at it.

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Post by tallowwaters » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:35 am

The manual is free to download, so why not download it and have a read, as it will likely answer all of the questions you are asking us.
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Post by Nannerfan » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:41 am

optimus prime wrote:Or just read the whole manual, while you're at it.
Good idea ... it basically says that you should decide the grade when sampling.. because if you change it afterwards the pitch changes... and from the jist of it, .. pitch is a b***h on this machine.

Seems more like a "get it right the first time" kind of box. Not bad really. Makes more sense as resampler/drum machine.

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Post by Logan 5 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:34 pm

I have had my SU-10 for around 12 years and love it to bits!
I have never used any other samplers in my work.I really like the ease of use,quirky features such as the ribbon control (great when assigned to filter or used for scratching!) and simple controls.
I work WITH its limitations,rather than feel frustrated by them.The portability factor and battery power means I can take it "out in the field" very easily and capture sounds anywhere-such as when I sampled elevator voices all over the UK as part of an ongoing project to produce the world's first choral work using elevators!
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A good example of the scratching technique in use in my work is from a very early piece,naively recorded on cassette and using the SU10 and a Yamaha CS2X.Vintage DR Who fans may get a kick out of this one:

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Re: Yamaha SU-10 love?

Post by Nannerfan » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:56 am

Haha,,, you sold me.. total Who fan here.

So, the only thing that worries me is this,.. everyone that seems to love this thing.. plays with their hands.

How is it as a sound module receiving MIDI ?
please don't say it has what I call .. shitty MIDI.

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Re: Yamaha SU-10 love?

Post by optimus prime » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:09 am

Nannerfan wrote:Haha,,, you sold me.. total Who fan here.

So, the only thing that worries me is this,.. everyone that seems to love this thing.. plays with their hands.

How is it as a sound module receiving MIDI ?
please don't say it has what I call .. shitty MIDI.
I use it as a drum machine via MIDI mostly, noticed no problems. I didn't try to send CCs or anything though, just triggering the drums. One thing you should know is that it has only 384 kB of memory that cannot be upgraded, so it's not like it can be used as anything much more than a drum machine. I have a few dozen one shots and a few loops in mine (all of which I converted to 32 kHz to save space) and the memory's maxed out. And it's supposed to be able to dump the whole sample pack via MIDI, and receive it back - never got that to work - major PITA. The memory thing had me thinking about a Boss SP-303, but that thing uses some now rare memory cards, so memory seems to be a problem with these little decade old samplers.

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