MC-303 DINsync?

megalord3000 · Post by **megalord3000** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:51 pm

Hi, I wanted to get a 303 and 606 and use them live together through the DINsync/pulse thing. Is there any way I could do this with an MC instead of a tb 303? Can an MC-303 connect to a 606 in this way? cheers

atom · Post by **atom** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:37 pm

no it can't, acutally MC-303 has nothing todo with TB303, like the TR909 has nothing in common with MC909.
different era different hardware. It's only possible with a MIDI<->DIN convertet witch are available
from Kenton i think, perhaps MIDI Solutions or Phil Rees.

megalord3000 · Post by **megalord3000** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:16 pm

Thanks. I'm actually bidding on a very cheap MC-09 which apparently has some ok acid sounds. I've had a look at those converters. Do you happen to know if whether I should convert the mc-09/303's sound into din and send it to the 606, or transform the 606's sound into midi and send it to the MC-09/303? Cheers

Altitude · Post by **Altitude** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:28 pm

Ok, first off, what "606" are we talking about here? TR-606, SP-606 etc?

dinsync is not available on any new roland machines and has not been since the TR-707 (late 80's). Furthermore, it only sends clock (hence din SYNC) so you can not send note info like with midi

I should convert the mc-09/303's sound into din and send it to the 606, or transform the 606's sound into midi and send it to the MC-09/303?

None of that is possible. You cant transform sounds to DIN, it is just clock nothing else. You cannot transform sound into midi either since midi is just digital data and if your talking about a TR-606, that does not even have midi

What exactly are you trying to do with these devices?

megalord3000 · Post by **megalord3000** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:01 pm

Sorry, I'm a bit of a novice so please forgive my ignorance! It's a tr-606 drum machine. Ideally I wanted a tb-303 and tr-606 sync-d up because you can sort of play 'live' with these can't you (like ceephax acid krew, chris moss acid etc)? I was fairly sure you could play patterns on a 303 and 606 and that they would stay in time with each other through din.

Problem is I can't afford a tb-303, and wondered if there was any way I could substitute it for something a little cheaper like a groove-box, but still play live as if I had the tb-303 + tr 606 set-up. Is there no way that newer midi roland machines can 'talk' to old Roland midi machines in the way that, say, a 303 and 606 can? I think what I want is to sequence a pattern from a groovebox with a drum beat from a tr-606, but I'm not sure if that's the right way to put it! Cheers

Post by **nathanscribe** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:07 pm

What about an MC202? Pain-in-the-hole sequencer, but analogue and good sounding. Has built in DIN but no MIDI, obviously.

You could always buy a MIDI-Sync24 convertor box. They're pretty cheap. MIDI goes in one side, DIN sync comes out the other. Only works one way round though, not vice versa. I run my sync24 gear via midi that way.

Altitude · Post by **Altitude** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:47 pm

I think what I want is to sequence a pattern from a groovebox with a drum beat from a tr-606, but I'm not sure if that's the right way to put it! Cheers

Nathan nailed it on the head. Midi to din sync converter is what you want

megalord3000 · Post by **megalord3000** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:53 pm

Nice one i'll have a look for a midi-din converter! Have you got any idea whether a tr606 and a midi groovebox would actually 'work' together, or is it something people don't really try? I see you're from Yorkshire Nathan, you didn't pick one up anywhere around here did you?