Vocoding on a Alesis Photon X25 ?

Brujo76 · Post by **Brujo76** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:38 am

I really like the Photon X25, been thinking of getting one, but i also wanna do vocoding on it, does somebody knows if this is posible on it, or some suggestions on a 2 octave controler that may allow to do that?

Post by **Zarith** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:38 pm

Brujo76 wrote:I really like the Photon X25, been thinking of getting one, but i also wanna do vocoding on it,

The Photon X25 is a midi controller, not a vocoder :-s

sacredcow · Post by **sacredcow** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:34 am

Err, you need an actual synthesizer for that.

Brujo76 · Post by **Brujo76** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:41 pm

i know charlie clouser used a midi controller to do vocoding live, so is it possible to control a vst vocoder or rack though it?

sacredcow · Post by **sacredcow** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:50 pm

Brujo76 wrote:i know charlie clouser used a midi controller to do vocoding live, so is it possible to control a vst vocoder or rack though it?

A midi controller sends note messages to synthesizers. It does not produce sound. Yes, you can send notes to whatever synth you want using a midi controller. That's what they do.

Huppo · Post by **Huppo** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:56 am

to add to the info here since you are obviously new at this...

Most modern synths can also control other synths via MIDI. Though that makes them MIDI controllers, it des not make them dedicated midi controllers which is what people think you mean when you ask about gear. You even mentioned the Photon. It cannot make a sound on its own so it cannot vocode.

What the other people in this thread have said is true: you cannot vocode with a dedicated controller. It is not capable of either a carrier or a modulator, both of which are necessary for vocoding.

machvingtsun · Post by **machvingtsun** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:37 am

Maybe your confusing the photon with the Alesis Micron on which vocoding is possible.

Brujo76 · Post by **Brujo76** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:50 am

well here's what i should be asking, is there a way you can you hook up a microphone on to the photon and hook it up midi to a vocoder be it rack or plugin, and have the effect of a complete vocoder?

alyerpal · Post by **alyerpal** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:59 am

Well, you *could* affix a mic to the side of Photon and plug the mic's audio & MIDI from the Photon into a standalone, keyless vocoder, but it seems like a bit of a kludge. You might consider a used Micron (I found one for $200), which has a built-in vocoder, and is about as small as a Photon X25.

Huppo · Post by **Huppo** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:47 am

Brujo76 wrote:well here's what i should be asking, is there a way you can you hook up a microphone on to the photon and hook it up midi to a vocoder be it rack or plugin, and have the effect of a complete vocoder?

You would just hook the microphone directly to the vocoder. You can't send the signal from a microphone over MIDI. MIDI doesn't transmit sound.

Do you already have a Photon or something? If you do, then you should read the owners manual or get one from Alesis and read it. It will explain the uses of the Photon to you.

Post by **killedaway** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:57 am

take a look at the Korg microKORG. it's a small form-factor virtual analog synthesizer, with a built-in vocoder and included microphone. the small keys rub some people the wrong way but the synthesis capabilities far outweigh any negatives. it's fairly inexpensive and easy to come by.

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