I cant find the specs and I've never owned one, does it have cv/gate out???
I want to use it for keyboard control of my macbeth modular.
thanks
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:25 am
by Z
Yes, it does. Remember the ARP 2600 video I made for you? I was controlling the ARP from the 101. The arpeggiator and sequencer info will also output, but it does not transmit key change info.
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:07 am
by nadafarms
sweet thanks again Z!
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:09 am
by nadafarms
Z wrote:but it does not transmit key change info.
wait, does that mean it will only send cv/gate from the arp and sequencer? Will I be able to control my macbeth by playing the keyboard of the sh-101?
thanks again
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:18 am
by hfinn
Yes you could control it fine.
Heath
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:23 am
by nadafarms
thanks heath! yeah the action on the system 101 is kinda notoriously funky, so I thought it would be cool to have a better keyboard and the arp/seq
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:37 am
by hfinn
Honestly, if I were you I would go with the Pro-one. Same thing, ARP and Sequencer, but you get that awesome filter and the pro-one is more versatile than a SH-101 so you could use it a ton on it's own.
Also you wouldn't need an adaptor (SH-101 is 1/8" outputs and the Pro-one is 1/4") Small point I know...
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:50 am
by nadafarms
true, I may have a lead on a pro one but then again they have bad key action for the most part and they are twice as much $. Though yes they sound really good I even kind of prefer the pro one sound over the minimoog. I've got a lead on $500 really nice sh-101 lined up tomorrow so I think that should do it for now and I've got plenty of 1/8 jacks from my systm
thanks again
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:57 am
by hfinn
OKay. I had a pro-one I re did the bushings on the keybed and it felt like new. Probably one of my all time favorite mono synths. I'm just of the camp where if I can spend a little more and get something I like more then well..
The 101 is still a great synth and should work as a CV controller just fine.
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:01 am
by Solderman
nadafarms wrote:I've got a lead on $500 really nice sh-101 lined up...
$500? If you have a Midi controller, you could get a Kenton Pro-Solo for less than half of that. I think SH-101 prices are way off-kilter these days, and would not recommend one to anyone who wasn't going to mod it, like I did, and certainly not for anything over $300. Adding VCA overdrive, a Filter input and a triangle wave are the only reason I find mine interesting now.
And really, it's all subjective too, because I didn't like the CEM3320 filter in the Pro~One that much. I much prefer the pair in my Voyager. 'sides, the sequencer in the SH-101 allows for sustained/tied notes, and has a much much bigger note memory.
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:46 am
by nadafarms
thanks for the good points solder, I probably should actually just buy a kenton that would be the responsible thing for me to do... and I probably will anyway but $500 for the 101 I can get my money back on and sell it pretty easy if I don't like it, and I do think the sh-101 sound is pretty cool and I need a tb ish sound. I was looking at getting a used FR revolution again, but for cheaper I'll get the sh-101 which sounds better to me as a synth even though the sequencer is not as cool as the FR.
You wanna mod this one for me?
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:39 pm
by Solderman
nadafarms wrote:You wanna mod this one for me?
Oh gawd, that mod took fer frickin' ever. I had to add a ground line from the CPU common pin directly to the negative battery terminal for it to stop acting batshit crazy. That took me over a year to figure out.
I agree the 101 is one of the best for squelch. That or the MC-202, as an equivalent. I actually thought about the 202 first, based on your request, but the sequencer on it is definately an acquired taste.
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:49 pm
by Sexor
Solderman wrote:
nadafarms wrote:I've got a lead on $500 really nice sh-101 lined up...
$500? If you have a Midi controller, you could get a Kenton Pro-Solo for less than half of that. I think SH-101 prices are way off-kilter these days, and would not recommend one to anyone who wasn't going to mod it, like I did, and certainly not for anything over $300. Adding VCA overdrive, a Filter input and a triangle wave are the only reason I find mine interesting now.
And really, it's all subjective too, because I didn't like the CEM3320 filter in the Pro~One that much. I much prefer the pair in my Voyager. 'sides, the sequencer in the SH-101 allows for sustained/tied notes, and has a much much bigger note memory.
It could be only me, but playing voltage controlled stuff via midi and then converting to CV somehow doesn't "feel" right.
The SH-101 keyboard is one of the nicest in the business, and the arpeggiator and sequencer are super useful. Having a 101 and a Pro-One here side by side I know that I would go for the 101 anytime over the Pro-One if I had a Macbeth lying around needing a keyboard
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:51 pm
by JSRockit
Solderman wrote:
nadafarms wrote:I've got a lead on $500 really nice sh-101 lined up...
$500? If you have a Midi controller, you could get a Kenton Pro-Solo for less than half of that. I think SH-101 prices are way off-kilter these days, and would not recommend one to anyone who wasn't going to mod it, like I did, and certainly not for anything over $300. Adding VCA overdrive, a Filter input and a triangle wave are the only reason I find mine interesting now.
And really, it's all subjective too, because I didn't like the CEM3320 filter in the Pro~One that much. I much prefer the pair in my Voyager. 'sides, the sequencer in the SH-101 allows for sustained/tied notes, and has a much much bigger note memory.
Oh man, $500 is a bargain these days... and they are worth that for sure.
Re: Does the sh-101 have cv/gate out?
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:13 pm
by Solderman
Sexor wrote:It could be only me, but playing voltage controlled stuff via midi and then converting to CV somehow doesn't "feel" right.
For me, a monophonic synth responding to the Kenton converter has never exhibited any latency or oddness, so maybe I'm just used to it now. Wouldn't it be cool to sequence the MacBeth from Ableton Live though? Much more control potential there, especially for linear sequencing.
JSRockit wrote:Oh man, $500 is a bargain these days... and they are worth that for sure.
It appears I've been caught whining about gear prices again, albeit in a slightly veiled guise.