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Spike problem with Moog Prodigy

Post by ribnib » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:07 pm

Hi!

I have a thumping or spike problem with my Moog Prodigy. It seems to be affected by Attack and Decay/Release. I can cindof move the "thump on" with attack time. The "thump off" only appears when the key is released prior to the tone decaying out with the decay time.

I adjusted the VCA balance trim, which on mine is R120, and did gain a little more signal to spike ratio. But it is quite menacing leading me to think there is something wrong. I don't have sufficient knowledge to start testing in there, but I thought I'd put it out here and see if any of you have a suggestion. Im thinking its something to do with capacitor c44 which plays a role in the whole ADSR thing. ( i think thats c40 on the prior 4160 models)

Also there is quite a bit of noise when osc. are turned down and only thump is heard. If I hold the "note" it hisses.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated!

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Re: Spike problem with Moog Prodigy

Post by meatballfulton » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:47 pm

Some amount of clicking on envelopes is normal on analogs with fast EGs. Some people even like it as they think it makes the sound punchier 8-)

You're on the right track with the VCA balance trimmer. It should go through a null where the clicking is at a minimum. If instead you're reaching the end of the trimmer before you hit the null there could be a problem somewhere else.

As far as hiss with all oscillators off, hey it's analog :? I'd check the signals coming out of the mixer and see if the hiss is as apparent there.
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Re: Spike problem with Moog Prodigy

Post by Esus » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:04 pm

There is a similar thread on the Moog forum (might even be you)...

http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7860

Kevin L has some good info.

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Re: Spike problem with Moog Prodigy

Post by ribnib » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:20 pm

well.. "ribnib" that is me on the moog forum.:)

this clicking or thumping is a lot louder than oscillator signal even at the best VCA trim point. And the hiss i talk about is only when a key is beeing held, after the thump/click, as if there was a noise generator beeing activated.
I am not talking about the noise floor of the unit.

thanks for helping

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Re: Spike problem with Moog Prodigy

Post by ribnib » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:35 pm

Does anyone know if a voltage difference on the power supply could be causing this thump? I'm measuring 11,9 negative and 11,6 positive voltage over the capacitors c39(-) and c38(+) to ground. The audio output is registering a spike of around 0,2 volts. Is this purely coincidence?

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Re: Spike problem with Moog Prodigy

Post by on-the-run » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:57 pm

SOLVED: the keyboard connector was connected upside down.

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