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just bought a CREAMWARE Pro 12 ASB.....

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:30 pm
by chimney chop
does anyone know where i can get a copy of the Software Editor/Library?

either hardcopy disc or download would be great

anyone know?

Re: just bought a CREAMWARE Pro 12 ASB.....

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:16 am
by Ashe37
google is your friend (plus a little browsing on their FTP)

ftp://sonic-core.net/software/ASB_Boxes/PRO-12/

Re: just bought a CREAMWARE Pro 12 ASB.....

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:44 pm
by Bitexion
Please do NOT update the firmware unless you have the serial key..you will make your synth unusable unless you get the serial key for the firmware update from sonic core. It's ridiculous to copy protect a firmware update, but sonic core just took it over from Creamware. I had it sorted within a couple hours via email til sonic core support. They said it was stupid aswell, but can't remove it.

My Minimax ASB wouldn't make a single sound after I updated firmware without entering the correct serial key in the updater :P

Re: just bought a CREAMWARE Pro 12 ASB.....

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:31 pm
by chimney chop
Bitexion wrote:Please do NOT update the firmware unless you have the serial key..you will make your synth unusable unless you get the serial key for the firmware update from sonic core. It's ridiculous to copy protect a firmware update, but sonic core just took it over from Creamware. I had it sorted within a couple hours via email til sonic core support. They said it was stupid aswell, but can't remove it.

My Minimax ASB wouldn't make a single sound after I updated firmware without entering the correct serial key in the updater :P
great advice, thanks

does the firmware automatically update upon 1st use of the hardware with the software or is updating the firmware something that you do manually?

Re: just bought a CREAMWARE Pro 12 ASB.....

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:09 am
by Bitexion
It's a manual update. Usually fixes some minor bugs or flaws in the synth's software. So it's worth doing it, but get that serial code from sonic core before you try, or your synth dies. It's some kind of stupid copy protection scheme Creamware figured out was a good idea. Who the heck would pirate or hack a firmware update anyway :P

Re: just bought a CREAMWARE Pro 12 ASB.....

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:35 am
by chimney chop
Bitexion wrote:It's a manual update. Usually fixes some minor bugs or flaws in the synth's software. So it's worth doing it, but get that serial code from sonic core before you try, or your synth dies. It's some kind of stupid copy protection scheme Creamware figured out was a good idea. Who the heck would pirate or hack a firmware update anyway :P
cool, thanks.


do you find yourself using the software much or only for non-panel/buried features?

Re: just bought a CREAMWARE Pro 12 ASB.....

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:06 pm
by chimney chop
also was wondering if you had any problems running the software on Windows 7

any problems?

Re: just bought a CREAMWARE Pro 12 ASB.....

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:50 am
by Bitexion
Nah, I've had no issues with the Minimax software on Win7.

I hardly ever used the software, actually. I use mine as a standalone synth. There aren't THAT many features buried in the software. All the effects are available with button presses on the synth, for instance.
Nothing you'd use actively while programming, maybe just changing some parameters like how the note priority should work.
It's a great way to store your sounds though, just send them straight to the software and store. Load up the software and send them back to the synth instantly again, you don't even need to store them on the synth itself then. Much more convenient to use as a sound browser, rather than remembering if "Big mini lead" was on position 11 or 25 in the synth's memory.

I really like the Minimax sound, I've never played an actual Minimoog, but heavyweights like Sound on Sound and Sonic State have both claimed it sounds and feels almost indistinguishably like a Minimoog. All the minis sound a little bit different though, different matched transistor pairs and whatnot. The SoS tester said it sounded like one of his Minimoogs that always stayed in tune.
I borrowed a Pro 12 from a music store over a weekend to test it, was very impressed with the sonic presence. But found that I don't really need another 2-oscillator polysynth when I already had the Andromeda A6.

It's also polyphonic, so it can go far into Memorymoog territory too. Can't do unison though, that was never a Minimoog feature :(
Of course the Pro12 does unison like a Prophet-5 would.
SoS was also very happy with the Pro 12 ASB. You can find the reviews in their archives now.

Re: just bought a CREAMWARE Pro 12 ASB.....

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:00 am
by chimney chop
Bitexion:

do you know how to process sound from the audio in of your Minimax?

i can't figure it out and the manual doesn't mention it