Normal Midi Seq. recording behavior or not?

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Normal Midi Seq. recording behavior or not?

Post by Zamise » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:33 pm

Hi,

If you have two full blown seqs and you play one to other while the other records the midi being sent to it on a single track, does it always pick up everything being sent to it, even notes and events playing on the other channels?

*This only happens during recording midi to a track, the other channel's and tracks still work and receive fine like they should during play.

I've tried it on my yamaha RS7000, and it picks up notes being sent to it from the other channels while recording, I've also tried it on Ableton and it does the same thing. So I'm wondering if this is abnormal or normal?

Solution seems to be to simply mute or solo the sending device's tracks when recording, which is fine and not huge problem, however I seem to keep getting told this isn't how it should be working, it seems it should be expected that only events coming across on the selected midi channel should be recorded and not all of them when recording.

Is that how it works on most other seqs? Is there usually a setting to switch recording between an omni mode off/on or some such setting if any of this is making any sense?
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Re: Normal Midi Seq. recording behavior or not?

Post by meatballfulton » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:00 pm

It really depends on the sequencer. Some will record all channels, others will not. Some can do both.

Ableton's MIDI input pulldown lets you chose "All MIDI inputs" which will result in recording everything. Set it to a specific MIDI device and specific channel and it will record only what is on that channel.

The RS7K is similar to the Motif sequencers and I know that both the Motif ES and XF can be set to record incoming MIDI on only one channel/track or on all tracks at once. In the Record Setup screen, the XF offers the choice of Scene Track, Tempo Track, Track 1 – 16, All Tracks.

I must admit I have never run a multitrack sequence into the XF when set to record only a single track so I don't know for sure it doesn't record everything. I do know that when you select All Tracks, it properly channelizes the input.
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Re: Normal Midi Seq. recording behavior or not?

Post by Zamise » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:06 pm

Thanks Meatballfulton! That makes a lot of sense, the RS7000 does not have those options in the Record Standby screen, I'm afariad we are stuck with it recording all. I'm going to quote your answer to folks over on the RS7000 group. Thanks again.
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Re: Normal Midi Seq. recording behavior or not?

Post by meatballfulton » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:26 pm

Well, I did leave something out about the Motif Record Standby...those Record Standby options are all available in Song mode.

But in Pattern mode, you can only specify channels 1-16. All channels is not an option in Pattern mode.

Scene and Tempo tracks only exist in Song mode.

If you think about how the two sequencing modes interact, it sort of makes sense.
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Re: Normal Midi Seq. recording behavior or not?

Post by Zamise » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:29 pm

Haha I just noticed that and came to post back, I've been in pattern mode and looked in to Song mode and it was the rec track setting which is loop type in pattern mode and don't have the same settings. Jeez I feel sooo stupid but happy at the same time. Thanks meatballfuton. I think we can do a copy job back to a phrase and then go in to pattern mode and use it. This has possibly been a futile exercise but somehow my brain feels a little larger, 10+ years and still learning something new on the RS.
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