Analog heavy Trance

Architecture · Post by **Architecture** » Sun May 24, 2009 6:55 am

wow, its probably been at least a good year or so since I have posted any tracks on this forum (maybe 2 years). Thought I drop by with a new track I am working on, its working title is DNA. Equipment used on this track

Roland TR909 for drums
x0xbox for 303 seq
Moog LP for Bassline
Roland JP8000 for supersaw
Roland JD990 for choir pad
Alesis Andromeda A6 for a short FX
and all fx's and mastering done with Ableton Live 6 plug ins.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7628477

ned-ryarson · Post by **ned-ryarson** » Sun May 24, 2009 12:42 pm

holy b'jeziz thats a tense 1...

i once told you id like to beat someone up to your 'ring of fire' number..

well i can imagine me getting beat up to this one! haha

but seriously, brilliant mix

Post by **shaft9000** » Mon May 25, 2009 12:42 am

throw yer hands up

takes me back to my first warehouse party in SanFran around '93. Except the supersaw, 'course.
i'll never forget the (not gay) couple enjoying a rowdy 69 under the stairs, bless 'em.

killanator · Post by **killanator** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:16 am

Wow, some great trancce. Thick analog sounds. Beats anything tiesto spins by a thousand, fantastic job, sounds very old school!

EDIT: posted this before the supersaw came in. makes it sound less old school, but still rocks!

The bass seems a bit to big and obnoxious in parts. It sounds like your using a mixture of waves? I normally just do 2 saws if im doing an offbeat bass in trance. You could also turn the filter down on it a bit.

The acid is great!

jaypodesta · Post by **jaypodesta** » Tue May 26, 2009 7:19 pm

Bangin' tune! Really enjoyed it.

Post by **mome rath** » Thu May 28, 2009 12:01 am

that "acid line" thing really doesn't work with the rest of what you have here

Architecture · Post by **Architecture** » Thu May 28, 2009 1:20 am

explain what you mean by doesnt work. off tune? off time? what.

Post by **mome rath** » Thu May 28, 2009 8:27 pm

Architecture wrote:off tune?

yes

it's dissonant with some of the chord changes you make. either it needs to change with them, or it needs to go.

Post by **TrondC** » Thu May 28, 2009 9:12 pm

yup, seems the acid line doesn't follow the rest (the notes entered does not match).. the rest is well produced tho, even if this is not my genere at all.. glad to hear some stuff from you btw, I was wondering where you'd been

Overgear · Post by **Overgear** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:08 pm

I really enjoyed the track! It does seem to capture something from a couple of musical periods. I'd even say the vocal patch feels "80s sampler"

. Nice. Thanks for posting it.

I understand where mome rath and TrondC are coming from but, personally, I didn't have a problem with it. I think the line is necessary and would have to be replaced if you removed it. I don't think having it follow the bass line/chord changes would give you the outcome you want, either. That's an assumption, though.
From poking around while listening, I did notice the acid line kinda dances around the lower bass note but never hits on the two major anchor notes(the bass line). I think that might be what they are talking about.

I did have an idea, though. I thought, why not just raise(and accent?) the very last 16th note after the 8th beat, right before bass line shifts, to something like C...or vary it (over time)between a couple of notes from the chords? Maybe, that little change could help blend it with the rest of the track. You know, kinda trick the mind. Once listeners realize that little shift is gonna be there every 8th beat, the other 7 will make sense. Does that make any sense? It's just an idea that popped into my head after reading the discussion.

Architecture · Post by **Architecture** » Fri May 29, 2009 12:43 am

I have been having tuning issues with my x0xb0x as well, which is why I havent really used it much in my productions. I think it needs to be recalibrated, and I have a huge 1980s analog oscilloscope dying to be used to bring my Scully tape machine back to life. my tuning knob is like at 3 oclock just to get the C to be in tune. now what I have noticed too is that if I get C tuned, D will be slightly out of tune, and the upper notes its like totally out of tune. yea I know somethings not totally right with the sequence, and I think it was mostly my machine just being totally out of wack. I programed the notes to fit in the mix. It was also only a 4 note sequence too, thought Id keep that one simple. I think i could have just taken out completely during the supersaw parts as well, that i noticed did clash with the rest of the mix.

if I replace it, it will most likely be a AX-60 sequence, I made a really cool patch where I use the AX-60 for some liquid sounding sequences, assisted by a slow shallow LFO that tweaks the filter. That will be another post on here as well. Shouldnt be the tuning nightmare that the x0xb0x has been.

Thanks for the advice everyone

Post by **mome rath** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:03 pm

Architecture wrote:I have been having tuning issues with my x0xb0x as well

my tuning knob is like at 3 oclock just to get the C to be in tune. now what I have noticed too is that if I get C tuned, D will be slightly out of tune, and the upper notes its like totally out of tune. yea I know somethings not totally right with the sequence, and I think it was mostly my machine just being totally out of wack.

this case is not a tuning issue with your x0xb0x

when a chord changes in certain parts, the x0xb0x line stands out in a bad way. if it was a tuning issue, you would have this problem regardless of what the rest of the track was doing behind it

to fix the tuning of the octave spread, you will need to adjust TM5 and TM4

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