Reamp & DI

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Reamp & DI

Post by johans121 » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:12 am

Seriously....

How much of an improvement does this make when running line level devices through guitar pedals??

synth > reamp > pedal > di > mixer

Will it bring the sparkle out in my dc-2? Will it bring the buzz/crunch out in my helium & chaos pedals? I guess what I'm really asking, will this chain help me grow hair on my chest? Does this voodoo magic really bring the dead back to life, or merely turn them into zombies?

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Post by hageir » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:19 am

I have no idea..
The same with the Aphex Aural Exciter, right?

isn't it designed with long, long, long cables in mind?
so nothing gets lost on the way..
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Re: Reamp & DI

Post by Stab Frenzy » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:51 am

johans121 wrote:Seriously....

How much of an improvement does this make when running line level devices through guitar pedals??

synth > reamp > pedal > di > mixer

Will it bring the sparkle out in my dc-2? Will it bring the buzz/crunch out in my helium & chaos pedals? I guess what I'm really asking, will this chain help me grow hair on my chest? Does this voodoo magic really bring the dead back to life, or merely turn them into zombies?

-Jim
If you really want sparkle, buzz and crunch, try:

synth > reamp > pedal > amp > microphone > preamp

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Re: Reamp & DI

Post by johans121 » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:24 pm

Stab Frenzy wrote:
johans121 wrote:Seriously....

How much of an improvement does this make when running line level devices through guitar pedals??

synth > reamp > pedal > di > mixer

Will it bring the sparkle out in my dc-2? Will it bring the buzz/crunch out in my helium & chaos pedals? I guess what I'm really asking, will this chain help me grow hair on my chest? Does this voodoo magic really bring the dead back to life, or merely turn them into zombies?

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If you really want sparkle, buzz and crunch, try:

synth > reamp > pedal > amp > microphone > preamp
Argh Matie..... ye trying te bus mahy bank!! Don't give me crazy ideas, I may end up spending more money then I intend!

Mr. Stab, that is excellent advice - I actually considered that once before, however I've decided against it for now. I've just spent a ton of money on all kinds of stuff and I figured that a di is cheaper than an amp,mic,& pre (I don't own an amp, and I don't have any pre's other than the ones found on my mixers)

With that being said, will the chain I initially specified help make the most of my guitar pedals? How much of a difference in tonal quality, and effectiveness of the effect, will that chain make?

Stab, have you tried comparing a reamp/di setup to one without reamp/di? Aeon, I think you have some reamps and di's, have you tried comparing the two setups? Do you guys think that that setup was worth the money? Would you be happy without it?

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Post by Stab Frenzy » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:45 am

I run a whole lot of stuff through guitar pedals and I've had a lot of success without having to use a reamp box. I was under the impression they were more for getting the right impedance for some picky valve input stages in amps, rather than pedals. Not saying a reamp box won't make any difference, just that I don't really think they're mandatory for pedals.

I've been told you can use a pedal with an active bypass (ie not hardwired) as a cheap reamp substitute. The output impedance of the pedal is what the amp wants to see and the input isn't that picky. That suggests to me that things aren't so critical with pedals, but I'd be interested in hearing a head to head comparison.

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Post by hageir » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:54 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:I run a whole lot of stuff through guitar pedals and I've had a lot of success without having to use a reamp box. I was under the impression they were more for getting the right impedance for some picky valve input stages in amps, rather than pedals. Not saying a reamp box won't make any difference, just that I don't really think they're mandatory for pedals.

I've been told you can use a pedal with an active bypass (ie not hardwired) as a cheap reamp substitute. The output impedance of the pedal is what the amp wants to see and the input isn't that picky. That suggests to me that things aren't so critical with pedals, but I'd be interested in hearing a head to head comparison.
hey stab (a.k.a pedalmaster)
what do you use to split one cable into a few? (if you do)
can you check this one out for me?
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Post by johans121 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:04 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:I've been told you can use a pedal with an active bypass (ie not hardwired) as a cheap reamp substitute. The output impedance of the pedal is what the amp wants to see and the input isn't that picky. That suggests to me that things aren't so critical with pedals, but I'd be interested in hearing a head to head comparison.
You know, I noticed something odd with my dc-2, the "check" light varies in intensity based on the device that is providing the input signal....

When I ran one of my ibanez delays through it the light barely registered, and I noticed that I had to crank the gain up on its channels just to hear the output from the pedal. When I ran my alienator through it the light was glowing brightly, and I noticed that the output of the effect was much louder and the 'dimension' effect more pronounced than when I ran other devices through it. The quality of dc-2's output had a direct relationship with the intensity of the light (I was using a new battery, so I know that had nothing to do with it)..... With that being said I'm beginning to think that a reamp will definitely have a positive impact on the output of the effect. I just wish that someone who has one would reply to this thread to put my questions to rest.

For some reason I have no problem dishing out $$$ on a device that makes crazy sounds, however I am always reluctant to spend money on 'supporting' devices - compressors, limiters, di's, reamps, etc....

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Post by code green » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:06 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:I run a whole lot of stuff through guitar pedals and I've had a lot of success without having to use a reamp box. I was under the impression they were more for getting the right impedance for some picky valve input stages in amps, rather than pedals. Not saying a reamp box won't make any difference, just that I don't really think they're mandatory for pedals.

I've been told you can use a pedal with an active bypass (ie not hardwired) as a cheap reamp substitute. The output impedance of the pedal is what the amp wants to see and the input isn't that picky. That suggests to me that things aren't so critical with pedals, but I'd be interested in hearing a head to head comparison.
nice tip--shoulda thought of that, considering that i regularly use bypass outs as splitters.

thanks for that, stab.

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Post by johans121 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:30 pm

One last bump for info....
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