Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by spookyman » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:14 pm

Yes, i have the DVD :wink:

Superb picture quality, and it's allways a pleasure to see Phil back on stage with the same "team" like in the end of the 70's (with Chester and Darill).

Of course, a reunion gig with Peter and Steve would be even better. But times are changing.
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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by iProg » Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:09 am

The lead sound in the outro to "Blood on the rooftops" is the violin on the pro-soloist, right?

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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by steveman » Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:57 pm

iProg, do you think you could amend your signature? That vertical list means a lot of scrolling even when you post only 1 line...
Be great if you could, thanks :)
That sound you refer to sounds more woodwindy to me?

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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by iProg » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:31 am

steveman wrote:iProg, do you think you could amend your signature? That vertical list means a lot of scrolling even when you post only 1 line...
Be great if you could, thanks :)
That sound you refer to sounds more woodwindy to me?
Done :)

Haven't been into Genesis for a while though...

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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by Anaon » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:52 pm

Hello!

I was wondering if someone knows which sound Tony Banks used on the main solo of "In The Cage", I guess it's the Arp Pro Soloist but I'm not so sure...
All synths on The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway would be the Soloist I've read somewhere?

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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by Micke » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:56 pm

I don't know what preset sounds he used however it's quite interesting to note that for the 1978 tour Tony Banks recreated the solo (well, most of the synth solos that originally were recorded with the Pro-Soloist), on the ARP 2600.
Then on the subsequent 1980-82 tours he played the solo on the ARP Quadra (you can hear this version on the live album "Three Sides Live").
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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by Micke » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:27 pm

Tony Banks' solo album A Curious Feeling (1979) has become a favorite of mine lately. I recently bought the remastered 2009
edition and it is awesome. I just love those big 'bendy' synth sweeps, for example on "From the undertow".

I must confess I thought he used the CS-80 for the big sweeps but it turns out it's the Polymoog.



Here's a quote from an interview with Tony Banks:

"...The early synths, the genuine synths as opposed to the sampling instruments, that give you those fat sounds which are very present on albums like A Curious Feeling and albums around that period when I first started using synths, which I guess was around Selling England by the Pound, I suppose. Of the last one of those I used a lot was the [Yamaha] CS-80 which had a nice fat sound and was used on Duke and things. Of course, the Prophet [5] kind of took over after that being an important instrument on Mama and Abacab.

Polymoog was another crucial instrument on A Curious Feeling. It had this marvelous Pedal you could use to open the filters with, and it had this extraordinary sound which was used on things like “From the Undertow,” for example. It just gave you this wonderful sort of swell… just volume and opening the filters. So, the instruments have been very important to me over the years."


Part of "From the Undertow" was originally written as an intro to "Undertow" from And Then There Were Three but was not used. However, a version of it was used in the movie The Shout (1978). Incidentally, a couple of VCS3's and an EMS Synthi Sequencer 256 made a cameo appearance in that movie.
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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by iProg » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:17 pm

Micke wrote:Tony Banks' solo album A Curious Feeling (1979) has become a favorite of mine lately. I recently bought the remastered 2009
edition and it is awesome. I just love those big 'bendy' synth sweeps, for example on "From the undertow".

I must confess I thought he used the CS-80 for the big sweeps but it turns out it's the Polymoog.



Here's a quote from an interview with Tony Banks:

"...The early synths, the genuine synths as opposed to the sampling instruments, that give you those fat sounds which are very present on albums like A Curious Feeling and albums around that period when I first started using synths, which I guess was around Selling England by the Pound, I suppose. Of the last one of those I used a lot was the [Yamaha] CS-80 which had a nice fat sound and was used on Duke and things. Of course, the Prophet [5] kind of took over after that being an important instrument on Mama and Abacab.

Polymoog was another crucial instrument on A Curious Feeling. It had this marvelous Pedal you could use to open the filters with, and it had this extraordinary sound which was used on things like “From the Undertow,” for example. It just gave you this wonderful sort of swell… just volume and opening the filters. So, the instruments have been very important to me over the years."


Part of "From the Undertow" was originally written as an intro to "Undertow" from And Then There Were Three but was not used. However, a version of it was used in the movie The Shout (1978). Incidentally, a couple of VCS3's and an EMS Synthi Sequencer 256 made a cameo appearance in that movie.

Just wonderful! I've recently played my Steve Hackett solo albums. Summer music to me :)

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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by b3groover » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:40 am

Gonna have to get that remaster. Thanks!

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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by Micke » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:49 pm

iProg wrote:
Just wonderful! I've recently played my Steve Hackett solo albums. Summer music to me :)

Yeah, I also like Hackett's solo albums a lot, in particular Spectral Mornings (great synth/keyboard work by Nick Magnus).
Mike Rutherford's "Smallcreeps day" (1980) and Anthony Philips' "Private Parts and Pieces II (1980) and "1984" (1981)** are pretty
good too. The latter three records as well as Banks' "A Curious Feeling" have one thing in common; they all feature prominent use of the Polymoog.

** not to be confused with Rick Wakeman's album of the same name which was also released in 1981.
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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by cornutt » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:40 pm

Micke wrote:Tony Banks' solo album A Curious Feeling (1979) has become a favorite of mine lately. I recently bought the remastered 2009
edition and it is awesome. I just love those big 'bendy' synth sweeps, for example on "From the undertow".
It's a great piece of music. Also the end of an era of sorts -- Tony's last time out as an all-out progressive rock keyboardist, as Genesis was due to introduce its stripped-down '80s sound with Duke. I never really thought about it before, but yeah, the Polymoog must have been a big part of it since A Curious Feeling and And Then There Were Three both have that dense Polymoog sound; I get the impression that Tony was using it to do a lot of things that he always wanted to do with the Mellotron, but could never get it to behave the way he wanted. Such as in the intro to "Somebody Else's Dream", where the chords bend upwards to the notes during the attack.
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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by b3groover » Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:24 am

Not W&W, but some nice shots of Tony's rig in this one. I see a Hammond T series, Polymoog, ARP 2600, and is that a CP70?


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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by Anaon » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:05 pm

Hi!

Thanks for this great thread!

Listening to Wind And Wuthering some minutes ago I was wondering which keyboards were used for "Afterglow"? There's some Taurus I guess but what about the nice pad sounds?

Thanks for any information about the song ;)
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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by ravenmek » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:48 pm

Anaon wrote:Hi!

Thanks for this great thread!

Listening to Wind And Wuthering some minutes ago I was wondering which keyboards were used for "Afterglow"? There's some Taurus I guess but what about the nice pad sounds?

Thanks for any information about the song ;)
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Re: Genesis - Wind and Wuthering

Post by Micke » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:46 pm

Tony Banks used a T-102 thru MXR Phase 100 Boss CE10 chorus.
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