Fuse located inside the Yamaha SY-1

Pulling out your hair? Don't know what to do or where to go? Ask in here.
Forum rules
READ: VSE Board-Wide Rules and Guidelines

If your Help request has been solved, please edit your first post in order to select the Image Topic Icon to let others know your topic has been solved.
Post Reply
User avatar
nsbhp2
Supporting Member!
Supporting Member!
Posts:36
Joined:Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:08 pm
Gear:Roland JV-1080, Korg Legacy Collection, the impOSCar, Korg DS-10, MicroKorg, Roland JP-8000, Casio CZ-1000, Korg Monotron, Korg Kaossilator
Location:Sylvania, OH
Contact:
Fuse located inside the Yamaha SY-1

Post by nsbhp2 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:07 am

Hi, all! Newbie to the site here, with a quick question. I recently purchased a Yamaha SY-1 off eBay (a STEAL @ $60 incl. shipping!!), and had it open the other day and saw that there is an old style tube fuse in a holder. When I pulled it out, I noticed that the filament was broken. Now, the synth seems to function OK, so what is the fuse for? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

Peace!
Scott

User avatar
Maschinengeist
Supporting Member!
Supporting Member!
Posts:1448
Joined:Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:42 pm
Real name:Steph. J
Gear:Multimeter
Frequency Counter
Oscilloscope
Signal Generator
Logic Probe
and more stuff
Band:Cybernetik
Location:Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Contact:

Post by Maschinengeist » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:21 am

The fuse is there to prevent current overload. So if an electric problem arises, the fuse will take the blow instead of the components.

The synth will work without one but it's not safe... The synth can fry and there will be nothing to prevent it. That why fuses blow!

Hope that helps
-------------------------------------------------------------------
MuzikElektronix.com
Music electronics repair & More
Help? See TechZone
Parts? email!
Service Manuals?+/-2000 documents!
Sorry, they aren't free
Now on FACEBOOK: "Muzik Elektronix"

User avatar
nsbhp2
Supporting Member!
Supporting Member!
Posts:36
Joined:Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:08 pm
Gear:Roland JV-1080, Korg Legacy Collection, the impOSCar, Korg DS-10, MicroKorg, Roland JP-8000, Casio CZ-1000, Korg Monotron, Korg Kaossilator
Location:Sylvania, OH
Contact:

Post by nsbhp2 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:33 am

Maschinengeist wrote:The fuse is there to prevent current overload. So if an electric problem arises, the fuse will take the blow instead of the components.

The synth will work without one but it's not safe... The synth can fry and there will be nothing to prevent it. That why fuses blow!

Hope that helps
Yeah, I understood the basic electrical use of the fuse, I just didn't know if it was for the entire synth or maybe one specific sub-part. But, obviously it needs to be replaced before I delve further into this beastie. Thanks for the reply, Maschinengeist!

Peace!
Scott

User avatar
Analog Freak
Active Member
Active Member
Posts:286
Joined:Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:29 am
Location:Ohio

Post by Analog Freak » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:42 am

machinegeist wrote:The fuse is there to prevent current overload. So if an electric problem arises, the fuse will take the blow instead of the components.

The synth will work without one but it's not safe... The synth can fry and there will be nothing to prevent it. That why fuses blow!

Hope that helps
Wrong. A fuse is used in a device to prevent additional damage after a short or because of a voltage spike. It doesn't reactact fast enough to protect against the initial problem, especially if it is the slow-blow type. A fuse will not pass current if it is blown, so anything that looks broken , but that passes juice probably isn't blown. A synthesizer will not even power on if a fuse is blown, nothing electrical will work without a steady flow of electrons. I would replace the fuse just to be safe, but the odds are, if the thing works properly, I don't see why it would be nessesary to swap out the fuse.
"All Your Synthesizers Are Belong To Us!" Literally.

User avatar
Maschinengeist
Supporting Member!
Supporting Member!
Posts:1448
Joined:Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:42 pm
Real name:Steph. J
Gear:Multimeter
Frequency Counter
Oscilloscope
Signal Generator
Logic Probe
and more stuff
Band:Cybernetik
Location:Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Contact:

Post by Maschinengeist » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:11 am

What I meant is that it's possible to make the synth works without one by mean of bypassing (I've seen it before and go figure why)... In my hurry, I thought I read that the fuse (well, the holder) was disconnected from the circuit...

Usually the fuse is for a section of the board. BUT by clowing cuts the circuit, i.e. the flow of electricity and "turns off" the whole synth.

Thanks Analog Freak for correcting me. I wrongly read the initial post.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
MuzikElektronix.com
Music electronics repair & More
Help? See TechZone
Parts? email!
Service Manuals?+/-2000 documents!
Sorry, they aren't free
Now on FACEBOOK: "Muzik Elektronix"

User avatar
Analog Freak
Active Member
Active Member
Posts:286
Joined:Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:29 am
Location:Ohio

Post by Analog Freak » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:39 am

Oh yeah, bypassing the fuse is pure genius. I've seen it cause quite a few failure modes, and more than a few fires.
"All Your Synthesizers Are Belong To Us!" Literally.

Post Reply