Favorite Delay Pedal?

tim gueguen · Post by **tim gueguen** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:47 am

Any delay with a modulation section has an LFO controlling delay time, with the possible exception of the Deluxe Memory Man. That's how you produce flanging and chorusing effects. Get the delay times long enough and you get pitch bending effects. If you have something like the old Lexicon PCM42 you can adjust the waveform of the LFO to a square wave and get discrete jumps in pitch of the delayed signal. This was a favourite trick of guitarist Henry Kaiser back in the '80s, heard on such albums as It's a Wonderful Life. He'd set the delay for a few seconds, set the LFO depth so it would shift the pitch up and down a fifth, and then play along in response to the pitch changes.

brian.only · Post by **brian.only** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:52 am

Cruel Hoax wrote: Just did a project using the Echoplex for vocals where my partner performed EQ of the vocal Send to Echoplex live, while I performed EQ of the return/feedback live, as well as level riding.

Badass!

Found a nice deal on a boss dm3 a month back and have been loving the 2 outs- can get neat stereoesque things going w/ two amps- too bad i cant get too loud @ night...

fav chain 1/08-

guitar/ synth> boss loopstation> dod fx17 wah filter> boss od2> boss dm3
(out#1)> vol.pedal> dod565chorus> boss ps3- musicman212 amp
(out#2)> vol.pedal> digitech echoplus> moog murf- fender 112 amp

yburn · Post by **yburn** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:15 pm

Another vote for the Korg SDD3300. 3 delay lines each with their own LFO, a and separate dry and wet output for each channel. Can do all sorts or delay, chorus, flange and even odd stuff like producing the Haas effect. Also has midi clock sync and best of all they can be had for around next to nothing if you can find one. Easy to program if you are used to programming synths.

Post by **audible** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:16 pm

Tyler2000 wrote:I just had an idea. Tell me if this exists. What about an delay unit that has an LFO that controls delay time. Then you could make all sorts of wacky delay effects. I personally love tweaking the time knob so this seems really neat to me.

exist?
dicuss...

In the digital realm, I always do just that with the Evolver or the Clavia Modular G2. Hopefully one day I'll mod my Wem Copicat to make its speed voltage-controllable. Instant tape craziness.

[Another nice trick involves the TC Eletronics Fireworx (I'm sure it can be done with other gear that tracks the pitch as well): making delay time frequency-dependant. Or splitting the incoming audio in several frequency bands and applying a different delay time to each one of them, then adjusting the relative volumes. I also use the delay extensively with the MuRF]

As for looping devices, I'm utterly satisfied with the Looperlative LP1. It's worth every cent.

haricots · Post by **haricots** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:54 am

Tyler2000 wrote:I just had an idea. Tell me if this exists. What about an delay unit that has an LFO that controls delay time. Then you could make all sorts of wacky delay effects. I personally love tweaking the time knob so this seems really neat to me.

exist?
dicuss...

The Yamaha E1010 discussed here has a LFO controlling delay time.

I'd like to mod my E1010 as mentioned to turn the footswitch pedal in to a CV input.

I 'adjusted' the max delay time on mine to about 750ms. Anything more than that and it creates a high pitched noise. You can get about 2 seconds of analogue delay out of it (noisey as h**l though). Anyway, it's much more usable now. 300ms was too short.

bsh · Post by **bsh** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:33 am

I paid 600 bucks for my RE201 last summer, which I thought was too much for one effect (it was in real nice shape, though). But once I heard it I just handed the guy the cash and got out of there like I had gotten away with something.

And wow, I haven't regretted it one bit. It lived up to the hype. It just has soul. It's great for all the reasons everyone already said, and also that you get cool tape distortion if you push it a bit, which sounds especially nice with drums.

I mean, I wish I would have found one in a pawn shop in the 90s for 80 bucks like some people, but you if you love the "dub sound" it's just worth it. Mine hasn't crapped out yet though, and really, it's been running like a champ but, you never know. I don't think I'll be taking it too many places.

The other thing that tempted me was Fulltone's tube echoplex copy, though they run like a grand. As far as a pedal, always liked and wanted a memory man but I don't think I'll be looking for another delay for a while. I like the space echo too much.

Post by **TrondC** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:43 pm

hm, sorry to burst in with my cheap-o ways, but I got my Danelectro PB & J and I must say, for $35 this does mostly everything I expect a delay-pedal to do.. Now I've never tried any top-delay units like the space echo, memory man etc, but as far as my experience with delays go, the danelectro is just as good as the built in delays of my electribes and microkorg.. and the pedal itself is very small, perfect for my already crowded workspace

now I know that some day I'll upgrade to the DD-6, but for now, sweet sweet danelectro

gcoudert · Post by **gcoudert** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:29 pm

I don't know whether anybody has mentioned it yet, but I like my ART Multiverb Alpha SE. £7 on Ebay! It is fully programmable, warm-sounding and very versatile. The only problem is that it hasn't got a power switch! But admittedly, it's not a pedal!

Gilles

fingerbib2000 · Post by **fingerbib2000** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:31 pm

Boss DM-2 - oldie but a goodie. lovely warmth.

Post by **nathanscribe** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:37 pm

Just picked up a cheap Chinese one: Biyang AD-7. Says it's analogue, but isn't really, but sounds good and has 1.1 second max delay time. Feeds back like a regurgitating triffid, and has true bypass. Well built, nicely controllable, copes easily with synth level outputs, and less than £50.

I can also recommend their CH-7 chorus. Proper BBD analogue unit, sounds better than the EH Small Stone in my humble opinion, as it's deeper and more flexible.

Both part of the Tonefancier range by Biyang. Don't fear the cheaper!

mirt · Post by **mirt** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:24 pm

old analog: roland re 301- lush and sweet
old digital: deltalab jr 1050, deltalab dl4 - dirty and sweet
old pedal: boss dsd3 - maybe i'm sentimental (it was my firts delay)
new pedal: echopark - in my studio there is not much work with it but on gigs it is best delay

Tyler2000 · Post by **Tyler2000** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:48 pm

TrondC wrote:hm, sorry to burst in with my cheap-o ways, but I got my Danelectro PB & J and I must say, for $35 this does mostly everything I expect a delay-pedal to do.. Now I've never tried any top-delay units like the space echo, memory man etc, but as far as my experience with delays go, the danelectro is just as good as the built in delays of my electribes and microkorg.. and the pedal itself is very small, perfect for my already crowded workspace

now I know that some day I'll upgrade to the DD-6, but for now, sweet sweet danelectro

I've also heard that it can modded for very extreme delay times as well as all sorts of circuit bending.

@everyone: not only did I come up with a delay that already exists, but I came up with a delay I had already bought. I guess I just didn't understand what the modulation section does.

The Ibanez delay I bought (DD-700) is all right. I was hoping for a much warmer tone like DE-7 had but, for $25 I can't complain. It doesn't do flanging so well, but it has a nice hold feature which I have been abusing to get strange drum beats, etc.

Suburban Bather · Post by **Suburban Bather** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:53 am

I just got a Boss PS-2 Pitch Shifter/Delay. Sick Sick Sick........... Absolute total lo-fi, grungy, digital c**p sound. Its perfect! I highly recommend it if your after a noisy and dirty delay. Oh yeah, the pitch shifting provides some cool fx as well. After playing around with this for a bit, I'd have to say old and primitive digital processors are just as cool as their analog counterparts.

brian.only · Post by **brian.only** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:32 am

Suburban Bather wrote:I just got a Boss PS-2 Pitch Shifter/Delay. Sick Sick Sick........... Absolute total lo-fi, grungy, digital c**p sound. Its perfect! I highly recommend it if your after a noisy and dirty delay. Oh yeah, the pitch shifting provides some cool fx as well. After playing around with this for a bit, I'd have to say old and primitive digital processors are just as cool as their analog counterparts.

I have been looking @ the PS-2 as well as the PS-3 and -5, good to hear a favorable review.

I agree about some of the old digitals, I really like the older digitech delays, esp the PDS series which for the most part can be found for 50 bucks on evilbay. They somehow always come across as warm and dusty.

Suburban Bather · Post by **Suburban Bather** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:22 am

brian.only wrote: I have been looking @ the PS-2 as well as the PS-3 and -5, good to hear a favorable review.

I agree about some of the old digitals, I really like the older digitech delays, esp the PDS series which for the most part can be found for 50 bucks on evilbay. They somehow always come across as warm and dusty.

Word! It seems the PS-2 is slightly easier to acquire than the PS-3. I just lost an auction for a PS-3 on ebay, it came down to whoever's browser refreshed the fastest at the right time. I'm currently waiting for a PS-5 to be sent my way. Not as pleasantly gritty sounding but it does have tremolo arm bends and flutters, which the others do not(can't wait to try that effect on drums).