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New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by AnalogKid » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:21 pm

What are your thoughts on the new Prophet-5? A Prophet-10 that doubles the voice count will also be available.


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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by alan partridge » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:13 am

Sounds like an authentic Prophet 5 revision, as some people have said, from the slightly later around 1980/Memorymoog era instead. Cool !
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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by meatballfulton » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:47 pm

Actually, it has the chips from all three Revs onboard. There's also a knob to increase the instability like the early revs. Wonder what the haters will be able to complain about now ;)
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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by Hyde » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:35 pm

Super Cool! Being that he said he'd never do it, maybe this leads the way for a reboot of the Prophet VS. That would light the world on fire!

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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by V301H » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:25 pm

Time to think about selling my P5 rev. 2 and getting the P10. The operating system is so antiquated on the original rev. 2. It would have been nice to update a few more functions in the new models but it seems to be faithful to the original for the most part. Keyboard Tracking is now Off/Half/Full rather than just Off/On which is a slight improvement but continuously variable as on the original Pro-One should have been possible. Pitchbend Range setting and not having to set Modulation Depth using the Mod Wheel would have been nice.
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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by Pro5 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:14 am

Awesome. Am getting a Prophet 10. Can’t fault it. Dave delivered and then some!

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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by Broadwave » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:41 am

meatballfulton wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:47 pm
Actually, it has the chips from all three Revs onboard. There's also a knob to increase the instability like the early revs. Wonder what the haters will be able to complain about now ;)
Surely that would mean SSM chips for the Rev 1 & 2 sections. I'm not aware they've been remanufactured, so it's probably just a light sprinkling of fairy dust :geek:

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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by meatballfulton » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:01 pm

The SSM chips are being made again. Read this from SoundOnSound magazine.

As always, they probably won't sound 100% identical because of changes in process technology and such.
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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by Pro5 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:06 pm

Broadwave wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:41 am
meatballfulton wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:47 pm
Actually, it has the chips from all three Revs onboard. There's also a knob to increase the instability like the early revs. Wonder what the haters will be able to complain about now ;)
Surely that would mean SSM chips for the Rev 1 & 2 sections. I'm not aware they've been remanufactured, so it's probably just a light sprinkling of fairy dust :geek:
Ok, so you’re not aware so that means it’s smoke and mirrors :| meanwhile the rest of the synth world are VERY aware (Thanks to news posted everywhere a long time back) of SSI with the original designer Dave Rossum and the original company head from SSM remaking a variety of the classic chips. Of course the rev 4 doesn’t have the 1/2 vcos and sticks with “just” the remade rev 3 CEM VCOs. Get aware, a google would have done it in seconds, then ruminate, no?

The SSI remakes (of the 44 not 40) are also used in the Prophet X (hybrid) that’s been out for ages already.

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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by rschnier » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:30 pm

I've had the rev4 Prophet 10 for a few weeks and love it. I've already had it apart to analyze the circuitry so I can modify it to allow each of the 10 voices to be panned within a L-R stereo field, similar to what the OB-8 offers. Yes, I'm aware of the warranty. The new circuit for panning/mixing/VCA outs is basically designed, currently tweaking it.

One interesting thing I found while mapping out the existing circuitry is that each group of 5 voices is pre-mixed separately, then the two groups are run through two parallel VCAs that allow the gain staging to be automatically adjusted by the computer so it's optimal for both 5-voice and 10-voice operation.

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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by Broadwave » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:38 pm

meatballfulton wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:01 pm
The SSM chips are being made again. Read this from SoundOnSound magazine.

As always, they probably won't sound 100% identical because of changes in process technology and such.
Thanks for the info... I didn't quite inderstand the new Prophet 5/10's Rev switch - I just presumed for authenticity they may have also used new SSM VCO chips along side the Curtis, but apparently, it's just the VCFs - I get it now.

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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by SciNote » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:43 am

rschnier wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:30 pm
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One interesting thing I found while mapping out the existing circuitry is that each group of 5 voices is pre-mixed separately, then the two groups are run through two parallel VCAs that allow the gain staging to be automatically adjusted by the computer so it's optimal for both 5-voice and 10-voice operation.
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I'm not exactly an electronics engineer, so I could certainly be wrong about this. But the first thing that comes to mind when I read this is that maybe Sequential is planning a dual-keyboard, 5-voice-per-keyboard, version of the Prophet 10 like they used to sell originally.

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Re: New Sequential Prophet-5 Rev. 4

Post by meatballfulton » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:43 pm

Dave Smith has stated there have been requests, but he's not planning a twin keyboard version.
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